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NovaSiliskoDate: Monday, 18.03.2013, 03:30 | Message # 751
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It'd be funny if SpaceEngineer released .97, but everyone was so busy asking about the release on this thread that they didn't notice. tongue
 
DoctorOfSpaceDate: Monday, 18.03.2013, 04:14 | Message # 752
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I wouldn't be surprised if something like that did happen.




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KimbDate: Monday, 18.03.2013, 05:03 | Message # 753
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You all can joke about it but it is all TOO possible that SpaceEngineer is making all wait precisely BECAUSE of so many pressuring him.
As HarbingerDawn pointed out the release comes when it comes...
And I agree 100 perzent that reverse psychology (pretending NOT to await next release) will likewise avail one naught.
GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO ARE PATIENT. And as any software programmer can tell you, rushed releases are buggy releases (as a rule).


Edited by Kimb - Monday, 18.03.2013, 05:10
 
mustafa2812Date: Monday, 18.03.2013, 05:11 | Message # 754
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Ya I think it's more likely that hes flattered that there are so many people waiting on his every word. I just know that I'll check this forum and look at the "last topic in forum" section and there will be a bunch of threads on .97 screenshots and bugs and stuff and that's when ill know. Until then, this thread isn't really much of an indicator.




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TimDate: Monday, 18.03.2013, 08:00 | Message # 755
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Or you could just check the download section on the main page of the site...
 
ogggrezDate: Monday, 18.03.2013, 12:57 | Message # 756
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Or you could just check the download section on the main page of the site...
...When you wrote that I thought that 0.97 had been released....





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SpaceEngineerDate: Tuesday, 19.03.2013, 13:25 | Message # 757
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I make a small program that processes the asteroids database from the Minor Planets Center. It have 600,000+ asteroids, Kuiper belt objects and other small bodies. Currently SE can't handle such great amount of objects, so program makes a selection of Main belt asteroids greater than 10 km, Juiper belt objects greater than 50 km etc. Resulting catalog consists of 2000+ objects:

Inner Solar System with Main belt, Jupiter trojans, and NEOs (Near-Earth Objects).



Outer Solar System with Kiuper belt, Centaturs, Plutinos, Resonant TNOs and Scattered disk objects. Note the gaps caused by Milky Way.



There is a great problem with such big catalog - loading time is soo big. I must improve performance of the script reader, or implement new format of the catalog. I think of a table format, that can be used for asteroids, exoplanets and exoplanets parent stars. It may looked like this:



This format is more compact and easy to load, but don't allow using parameters that a missing in the header. Objects that uses additional parameters must be excluded from the table catalog and added to the usual script catalog.

Attachments: 5035027.jpg(298Kb) · 0998062.jpg(269Kb)





 
midtskogenDate: Tuesday, 19.03.2013, 13:35 | Message # 758
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Have you considered to use sqlite for organising catalogue data? It's public domain.




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HarbingerDawnDate: Tuesday, 19.03.2013, 14:49 | Message # 759
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Wow, that's great! Programs like that could make it a lot easier to fill in gaps in the SE catalogs smile




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TimDate: Tuesday, 19.03.2013, 18:26 | Message # 760
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Very nice. Would it be possible to get a list of the asteroids inside a system? Like f2 gives you a list of planets and moons. Their models don't have to be included in the list, just their names and some crucial data.
Now you can just see how many there are, but for more details you really need to randomly click some of them.
The option to enable their orbits in the universe map would also be nice.
 
SpaceEngineerDate: Tuesday, 19.03.2013, 20:37 | Message # 761
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Very nice. Would it be possible to get a list of the asteroids inside a system? Like f2 gives you a list of planets and moons. Their models don't have to be included in the list, just their names and some crucial data. Now you can just see how many there are, but for more details you really need to randomly click some of them.


You ask too many features. Every time I post some new developement progress, I recieve many suggestions. I can't implement all of them right now. So just be patient.

Quote (Tim)
The option to enable their orbits in the universe map would also be nice.


Press F4 in the map mode.





 
TimDate: Tuesday, 19.03.2013, 20:57 | Message # 762
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You ask too many features. Every time I post some new developement progress, I recieve many suggestions. I can't implement all of them right now. So just be patient.

Oh sorry if I was being obtrusive. Maybe I should've made clear they were suggestions. I wasn't even implying for next release or any release, I'm just trying to express my thoughts every time you add something to this thread. Things you may not have thought of.
It may seem like we underestimate your progress, but that's not the case by far. I'm honestly surprised you already managed to put such a large number of asteroids in already. wink

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Press F4 in the map mode.

Oops, never found that one. My bad wacko
 
DwardenDate: Monday, 25.03.2013, 14:40 | Message # 763
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I do wonder can't you speed up loading of these object groups by loading/allocating them into cloud/ring/area/zone based clusters ?

e.g. gravity / size first ... (so the most important major objects load first)





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mustafa2812Date: Monday, 25.03.2013, 21:03 | Message # 764
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I mean this as no offense of course and I can only speak for myself, but to be honest I'd rather have .97 sooner as it is now, than later with more features like this new asteroid implementation. There are already so many great features that are spoiled for the new version, I'd rather just have a release than any more small new things. This is not a complaint though. I appreciate everything that you are doing and It's fine if you have plans to add more features, I just want to offer my opinion.




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HarbingerDawnDate: Monday, 25.03.2013, 21:10 | Message # 765
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mustafa2812, "as it is now" is not ready for release. It's not because of wanting to implement new things, it's because bugs need to be fixed and features that are partially implemented need to be finished. This is what the majority of work on any game or software is in the time leading up to release. Minor things like adding new asteroids is incidental, and does not take much time away from working to finish the version.

For future reference, obviously everyone wants the new version, but it will be ready when it's ready, not sooner and not later. Reminding SpaceEngineer continuously about wanting it will not make it come any faster. So just wait. This talk about it is not constructive.





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