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steeljaw354Date: Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 00:09 | Message # 571
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I would prefer not to talk about this as you are probably thinking I am an idiot for believing this thus leading to another ban. I'm not forcing you to believe this, afterall you have free will and if you choose to believe in something else, that is your choice. Explain why the corona is MILLIONS of degrees while the surface is only thousands. Makes no sense without electric universe. If you want to listen... fine but do so with an Open Mind.

Edited by steeljaw354 - Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 00:50
 
WatsisnameDate: Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 02:15 | Message # 572
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You're not an idiot for believing the electric universe idea, especially if you are not a professional astrophysicist. It seems like a very reasonable idea, and appeals to our common sense and experiences with other phenomena. It makes very complicated things much easier to understand.

Unfortunately, it does have one small problem in that it is completely wrong.

The thing is, common sense is not good for doing physics. While I was doing physics tutoring, there were so many times that I had people jump on an initial reaction or gut feeling to solve a problem qualitatively, and they would get it wrong because the correct route to the answer required more work. I became fond of telling them,

"Do not listen to your gut. Your gut does not understand physics. Use your brain, the principles you have learned, and any mathematical techniques you can bring to bear."

We train ourselves very hard for very many years to become physicists. You have to beat out that Aristotelian "oh this sounds reasonable so it must be right" manner of thinking, and learn that the correct way to solve a problem -- and be confident about it -- is to do the hard work. Physics requires rigor. :)

The electric universe theory is not a theory because it hasn't been verified by rigorous tests, is not a model because it lacks a rigid mathematical framework, is not successful as a set of hypotheses because it is easily seen to contradict simple observations, and is not taken very seriously by professional astronomers because its motivation is ridiculous.





 
WatsisnameDate: Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 03:10 | Message # 573
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Quote steeljaw354 ()
Explain why the corona is MILLIONS of degrees while the surface is only thousands.


This, we don't fully know. It has been an unsolved problem in astrophysics for many decades. However, just because we don't know, doesn't mean you should believe any idea that sounds reasonable to you.

Instead, we continue to study it, do the work, and figure things out.

There are lots of interesting, unsolved problems in science. If there weren't, science would stop, and that would be very boring. smile Here's one I find particularly interesting:

Explain Sonoluminescence. If you can't, then I get to believe whatever I want.





 
DoctorOfSpaceDate: Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 03:15 | Message # 574
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Quote steeljaw354 ()
you are probably thinking I am an idiot for believing this thus leading to another ban


I removed my post because Watsisname had a better reply coming. Banning over a disagreement on views would be an abuse of power and should never be of concern. Your past bans were due to putting little to no effort into your posts/threads even after receiving a ban and being warned. This is not the place to discuss such things so lets end this here.

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fine but do so with an Open Mind.


My brother defends the electric universe with a passion. I've read into it and watched many of the videos, but my issues with it are fairly well covered in Watsisname's post.





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steeljaw354Date: Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 13:04 | Message # 575
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Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound.

I never have understood why the sun's corona is hotter than the surface, if anything a nuclear sun would have the corona be cooler than the surface. The chicken sun is absolute trash compared to the electric sun. Every theory has a few loopholes in it, I'm not saying the electric sun is perfect, I'm saying the nuclear sun is supported by the sub-human trash which run this world and use their slave system of world destroying energies to keep us paying for their stuff, instead of using other energies like solar or wind. I'm tired of paying for bills for these people, while they sit on their high horse and do nothing about the costumer, this world is way to greedy, it needs to stop.

The united states of America hired Nazis scientists, any you know Nazis are very good at telling lies.


Edited by steeljaw354 - Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 13:06
 
MosfetDate: Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 22:39 | Message # 576
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I'm saying the nuclear sun is supported by the sub-human trash which run this world and use their slave system of world destroying energies to keep us paying for their stuff, instead of using other energies like solar or wind. I'm tired of paying for bills for these people, while they sit on their high horse and do nothing about the costumer, this world is way to greedy, it needs to stop.

Having someone calling others "sub-humans" really warms my heart. You know the world will be a better place because of this, it always does when someone reach that level of intellectual confrontation.





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Edited by Mosfet - Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 22:41
 
steeljaw354Date: Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 23:19 | Message # 577
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Well sure some world leaders may be good, but you may never know for sure, I'm always weary of them. I never trust anyone. Look at donald trump, he wants to do good for my country and he wants to beat the all the leftists out of the game, leftists are more Controlling, thus if the country was 100% left it would be an oligarchy or communism, which is NOT what I want for my country. I need somebody like donald trump to step up and do something about my countries issues, obama hasn't done anything for me or my country, if anything he has done bad.

I cheered when the UK left the EU. North Korea needs to done with and so on with other dictatorships. I plan to move to new zealand or Switzerland and sooner or later world war 3 will happen and I will just sit back at disgust at how barbaric humanity was,is, and will become.


Edited by steeljaw354 - Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 23:54
 
MosfetDate: Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 23:50 | Message # 578
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You confused UN with UE and your anger is out of place. Or maybe not, since you don't trust anyone.




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steeljaw354Date: Tuesday, 12.07.2016, 23:55 | Message # 579
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You mean EU right? Even your somewhat confused.
 
MosfetDate: Wednesday, 13.07.2016, 00:20 | Message # 580
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unfortunately I'm Italian. UE = Unione Europea




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steeljaw354Date: Wednesday, 13.07.2016, 00:28 | Message # 581
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Whats so bad about that? At least your country doesn't have a horrible president like mine. Well it does have open borders which does mean terrorists might come in, which is why I support a closed border Europe with stricter immigration laws.

Edited by steeljaw354 - Wednesday, 13.07.2016, 00:28
 
SalvoDate: Wednesday, 13.07.2016, 06:20 | Message # 582
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At least your country doesn't have a horrible president like mine

Sure?


Anyway, we're going too off-topic, this thread is not to talk about US politics (or Italy's politics), it's about conspiracy theories, if you want to talk about conspiracy related to politics it's fine, otherwise use this thread.





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DoctorOfSpaceDate: Wednesday, 13.07.2016, 07:00 | Message # 583
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What do you think did Hitler survive?

I've read some intriguing reports about him living out his golden years in Venezuela, on the Moon, and even on Mars. happy





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apenpaapDate: Wednesday, 13.07.2016, 08:33 | Message # 584
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I'm saying the nuclear sun is supported by the sub-human trash which run this world and use their slave system of world destroying energies to keep us paying for their stuff, instead of using other energies like solar or wind.


Okay, I'll bite. What possible motive does said 'sub-human trash' have of 'supporting' the model of the Sun being run by nuclear energy? And can you actually point me to any instances of one of those people supporting said model?





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midtskogenDate: Wednesday, 13.07.2016, 09:36 | Message # 585
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Quote steeljaw354 ()
Explain why the corona is MILLIONS of degrees while the surface is only thousands.

I've long wondered if this comparison really makes sense. The corona is mostly made up of vacuum. The density of the corona is very very small.





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