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What way would you want earth?
butterarmyxjrblxDate: Friday, 01.07.2016, 01:58 | Message # 16
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Quote JackDole ()
maybe something like this?
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Yep.





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JackDoleDate: Friday, 01.07.2016, 02:28 | Message # 17
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Quote butterarmyxjrblx ()
Yep.

It's kind of my home system.



Of course I have no idea whether such a system is stable in the long run.
Probably not.
But since the whole system was built by a Type III civilization - including the eleven suns and a black hole - it does not matter.

The orbits of the planets are corrected when instabilities occur! biggrin

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WatsisnameDate: Friday, 01.07.2016, 02:38 | Message # 18
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I think this summarizes my reaction to the prospects of living on any of those worlds:



Nope nope nope.

Because nope:






 
JackDoleDate: Friday, 01.07.2016, 16:58 | Message # 19
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Okay, but where is the problem?

Like I said, the system was built by a Type III civilization.
(Of course, out of pure nostalgia. I can not imagine that a Type III civilization normally used something so old fashioned as planets.)
These small orbital problems are not real problems for such a civilization.

But apart from this.

Could you find no favor in such a system?

Imagine someone builds a ring around this system.



With elevators to the three planets. (Still in the planning stage)

You could go on foot, from one planet to another.
Apart from the ride with the elevators. There to install stairs, even I would consider this exaggerated.

Whoever finds the way to walk too long, can rent a Bantha, at the lift stations, possibly with a carriage.

Or he uses the maglev train, which travels with multiple sound velocity. Of course, this train is also purely nostalgic.

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steeljaw354Date: Friday, 01.07.2016, 17:21 | Message # 20
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WatsisnameDate: Saturday, 02.07.2016, 03:23 | Message # 21
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Okay, but where is the problem?


Well, it's like balancing a pencil on its point.
Except instead of a pencil, it's the Great Pyramid of Giza. Upside down. Balanced on its point.
And you're building your house under it.

Okay, maybe you have the technology to build a pyramid upside down without it collapsing or toppling over as you do so. Okay, maybe you have an array of motion sensors and computers monitoring its position, networked to a bunch of rockets that constantly fire to keep it at that unstable equilibrium point.

It's not that it's strictly impossible, if you assume you have the necessary technology (a tautology). It's just that it's kind of crazy. smile The instability of this configuration is crazy. The work required to build it and keep it balanced is crazy. It looks cool, and it has aesthetic appeal, as well as appeal in the sense that your home system exists in a configuration could ever exist naturally. But, the notion of living under an upside down pyramid still fills me with terror. biggrin





 
DoctorOfSpaceDate: Saturday, 02.07.2016, 04:16 | Message # 22
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Regardless of how advanced that civilization is I wouldn't want to live in such a system. One computer error or hiccup in the stabilization and everyone has a bad time.




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JackDoleDate: Saturday, 02.07.2016, 04:33 | Message # 23
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Watsisname,
Crazier than a many-ton aircraft flying over my head? And it does not even flapping its wings!
Must this machine not fall?
What keeps this machine up there?
That's easy. Science. Science makes things possible that our ancestors could never have predicted.

Science will make it possible that a pyramid is upside down. And the people who live in a time when this is possible, they will find it quite normal.

Incidentally, this reminds me of the novel 'The Colour of Magic' by Terry Pratchett. In this novel, there is the 'Wyrmberg', an upside down mountain. biggrin

DoctorOfSpace,
I agree. A computer error, and an aircrafts falls down!
How well that none of us will ever fly with an airplane. Or does it?





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DoctorOfSpaceDate: Saturday, 02.07.2016, 04:55 | Message # 24
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A computer error, and an aircrafts falls down!


Not quite that simple. The issue is the more complexity you layer into a system the greater the chance of a failure, chain breaks at the weakest link. To balance an entire planetary system like that would be far more difficult than creating computer code to help fly a plane.





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JackDoleDate: Saturday, 02.07.2016, 05:22 | Message # 25
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Quote DoctorOfSpace ()
The issue is the more complexity you layer into a system the greater the chance of a failure, chain breaks at the weakest link.

That well may be.
But if in a plane something goes wrong, not much time remains to correct something. The aircraft is a pile of junk.

If in such a planetary system something goes wrong, the planets will slowly come out of their path.
And maybe one or another space elevator will go broke. Of course, that would be a disaster. Although there are other security systems! dry
But it is time to repair the computer to correct the software, and the planets to bring back to their orbits.

But unfortunately, none of us will probably have the opportunity to experience this themselves. dry
Unless we get a visit from a Type III civilization during the next few years! biggrin





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spacerDate: Saturday, 02.07.2016, 05:28 | Message # 26
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Unless we get a visit from a Type III civilization during the next few years!

lets hope for a peaceful visit and not hollywood movies type





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WatsisnameDate: Saturday, 02.07.2016, 05:40 | Message # 27
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Crazier than a many-ton aircraft flying over my head? And it does not even flapping its wings!


When an airplane's engines fail, it turns into a glider.

When this Orbit StabilizerTM fails, it turns into chaotic, unpredictable, planet-sized wrecking balls. smile





 
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planet-sized wrecking balls

ouch biggrin





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JackDoleDate: Saturday, 02.07.2016, 05:44 | Message # 29
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When an airplane's engines fail, it turns into a glider.

Only with a very good pilot! biggrin





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WatsisnameDate: Saturday, 02.07.2016, 05:53 | Message # 30
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In all sincerity, I'm not trying to make a multi-post argument about it. It is a cool thing and I'm not trying to knock it down. Mostly I just wanted to make a funny post about the craziness that is the 3-body problem. smile




 
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