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SalvoDate: Friday, 23.11.2012, 13:17 | Message # 61
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What about an hidden civility under meters and meters of sand? D:




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Edited by Salvo - Friday, 23.11.2012, 13:17
 
SlyReaperDate: Friday, 23.11.2012, 16:43 | Message # 62
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What about an hidden civility under meters and meters of sand? D:


Impossible. Where would they get their cheeseburgers from?
 
HarbingerDawnDate: Monday, 26.11.2012, 07:31 | Message # 63
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Viking image of frost:



Reconstructed Mariner 7 approach image (1969)


Mars Observer approach image, 28 days before arrival and loss of contact




Believe it or not, the Opportunity rover is still alive and well, and exploring Endeavour Crater. Here is its latest mosaic, with images taken as little as two days ago:


Part of what can be seen in the full res image:



This image shows an impression left by the Rock Abrasion Tool (RAT):



An interesting rock:



More interesting rocks:



An interesting outcrop of rock named Cape York






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WatsisnameDate: Monday, 26.11.2012, 15:00 | Message # 64
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I love the image from Viking; is probably one of my favorites from the surface of Mars. I've seen it before in a book ages ago, but I don't think the resolution or color were that good. Thanks for posting these!




 
smjjamesDate: Tuesday, 27.11.2012, 20:12 | Message # 65
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Moved the post to the curiosity thread, also included Harbs response below. Moved back since Harb said I didn't actually need to move it.

http://www.space.com/18626-n....on.html Some speculation stuff and also a caution on overhyping. At the end, it says that none of the team said anything about earthshattering or anything like that Still, to have it be 'top secret' like this means that they want to be really sure that they are seeing what they think they are seeing before they make it public and that they think it's something big.







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HarbingerDawnDate: Tuesday, 27.11.2012, 20:38 | Message # 66
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Since we seem to be putting Mars science stuff here, including the science done by the Curiosity rover....

Curiosity has its own thread, as is mentioned in the OP. From now on post Curiosity stuff there.

And there is no sense in speculating further about it. Everything that can be discussed about it already has been. The reason they are waiting to announce it might be because it is very important, but also because it takes time to confirm the data. They need to analyze multiple samples and interpret the results and that takes a lot of time. If they announce something before properly confirming it - like they almost did with methane earlier in the mission - then it might turn out to be wrong and that would be pretty embarrassing.





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smjjamesDate: Tuesday, 27.11.2012, 20:43 | Message # 67
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Since we seem to be putting Mars science stuff here, including the science done by the Curiosity rover....

Curiosity has its own thread, as is mentioned in the OP. From now on post Curiosity stuff there.


I was referring to this post http://en.spaceengine.org/forum/22-1162-15361-16-1353446829 , which didn't get corrected, so I wasn't sure.

I'll repost the thing over on the curiosity thread (which btw, could drop the countdown bit in the title?).





 
HarbingerDawnDate: Tuesday, 27.11.2012, 20:48 | Message # 68
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I'll repost the thing over on the curiosity thread (which btw, could drop the countdown bit in the title?).

The discussion has already happened over here, do not repost it. It can be moved from here to there later.

As for that post (and those subsequent to it) I was taking a break from the forum when that discussion happened, hence my belated reminder to post Curiosity stuff in the appropriate thread.





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smjjamesDate: Tuesday, 27.11.2012, 20:49 | Message # 69
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I'll repost the thing over on the curiosity thread (which btw, could drop the countdown bit in the title?).

The discussion has already happened over here, do not repost it. It can be moved from here to there later.


Too late, sorry, I did it before I saw your reply. However, I did include your reply above

I'll put it back in the post though.

Edit: Putting my reply to your post that I made on the other thread, over here.

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And there is no sense in speculating further about it. Everything that can be discussed about it already has been. The reason they are waiting to announce it might be because it is very important, but also because it takes time to confirm the data. They need to analyze multiple samples and interpret the results and that takes a lot of time. If they announce something before properly confirming it - like they almost did with methane earlier in the mission - then it might turn out to be wrong and that would be pretty embarrassing.


I was just putting it out there, and yeah, like I was saying, they want to be sure that the discovery is what it is and interpreted properly before they announce it publically. I just kind of said that in a shorter way.







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SalvoDate: Wednesday, 28.11.2012, 19:11 | Message # 70
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I just read that europe are increasing funding for the ESA, and that maybe Curiosity just found some organic molecules on Mars, and NASA is working to warp drive! I know that for now we can't build a working warp drive, and i'm not sure it's realy possible, even if we was hyperadvanced, BUT what I mean is that the in near future we will understand how much exploration of space is important, so maybe in future we will realy reach mars, and, who knows, maybe even the first exoplanet, i know that maybe i'm delirious (and I don't know how many "maybe" i used), but some of my hopes, now, are becoming clearer smile

We are going to enter in a new era, the era of exploration of space smile





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Edited by Salvo - Wednesday, 28.11.2012, 20:19
 
HarbingerDawnDate: Wednesday, 28.11.2012, 19:41 | Message # 71
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Salvo, threads for discussions like this already exist. Put some effort into finding a relevant thread before creating a new one. Also, try not to be rambling and incoherent. Use proper language skills.

Opportunity has discovered nothing of the sort, you are thinking of Curiosity. And we don't know what it discovered yet, if anything. That will be announced within the next couple of weeks. Warp drive is possible as far as we know, but I have not heard of NASA putting any serious effort into it, though some people are.

Please do not create a new thread for this kind of thing in the future. There is a thread for government human spaceflight, there is a thread for Mars discoveries, there is a thread for Curiosity, there is a thread for space propulsion systems, there is a thread for other stuff related to this new era of spaceflight. There are threads all over the forum for you to choose from. Use them.





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SalvoDate: Wednesday, 28.11.2012, 20:28 | Message # 72
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Opportunity has discovered nothing of the sort, you are thinking of Curiosity.

Sorry, i was over-excited smile
The topic wasn't about just the discoveries, because, for example, the article about warp drive was written in september, my idea was to talk about the future of humanity and the changes of last years, maybe i made i mistake posting it into Science and Astronomy Discussions, and i didn't knew this post, if i knew it, i would have posted here





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AlessiaCristalloooDate: Wednesday, 28.11.2012, 20:58 | Message # 73
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Please do not create a new thread for this kind of thing in the future.

We have enought threads to delete "New thread" button smile
 
HarbingerDawnDate: Wednesday, 28.11.2012, 21:38 | Message # 74
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my idea was to talk about the future of humanity

We have at least two threads talking about the future of humanity as well

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We have enought threads to delete "New thread" button

Yeah, I think so smile





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HarbingerDawnDate: Sunday, 02.12.2012, 04:24 | Message # 75
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Fortunately for Opportunity, the large dust storm near Hellas has weakened during the past week. However, a new small dust storm has developed much closer to the north-west of Opportunity's location.






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