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DoctorOfSpaceDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 00:30 | Message # 226
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There should be a clear idea of why performing that experiment should be scientifically valuable.


I think "because it looks cool" should be the top priority.





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steeljaw354Date: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 00:39 | Message # 227
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I would really like to see if we could invent some sort of Terraforming bombs or something like Genesis from Star trek.
 
WatsisnameDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 01:37 | Message # 228
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I think "because it looks cool" should be the top priority.


Sticking your head in the particle beam is a good way to make sure the accelerator is working properly and enjoy a pretty light show. cool





 
midtskogenDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 04:09 | Message # 229
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Should we Nuke Mars's north pole to see what happens?

What do you think would happen that would make it a good idea?
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I would really like to see if we could invent some sort of Terraforming bombs or something like Genesis from Star trek.

Even a large hydrogen bomb would just have a local effect on the landscape. Remember that the Tsar Bomba didn't melt the permafrost of Novaya Semlya or something and changed Earth's atmosphere in any noticeable way. Not even close.





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spacerDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 04:17 | Message # 230
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personaly i prefer a long process melting, if we will ever need that.





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midtskogenDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 05:30 | Message # 231
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personaly i prefer a long process melting

We're trying that on Earth, and it's taken a century and 10 billion people to rise the temperature between 0.5 and 1.0 degree by the best estimates. So a terraforming beginning on Mars is as simple as doing 20 times that with zero infrastructure.





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spacerDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 06:09 | Message # 232
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in the future i guess we will have better plans for mars terraforming. for my opinion the best option is melting the poles.
but like you said even on long scale like on earth, it would take hundred of years for just +2c maybe.
maybe we need some tool that will focus on mars poles metling, and not global. maybe not by atmopshere or climate warming but just melting ice. like here when you put ice in warm place, maybe even transport ice from the poles with trucks to put it in special warm building just to melt it and release the gas. that will release huge amount of co2 to the atmosphere for more atmosphere thickness and warming. we can also maybe use methan or even maybe hfc that has x14000 greenhouse effect of co2.





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DoctorOfSpaceDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 15:23 | Message # 233
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Nuclear reactors which dump their heat into the frozen CO2 would be a good option.




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midtskogenDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 16:37 | Message # 234
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Did Schiaparelli touchdown safely? Seems like it takes a bit longer than hoped to find out.




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MosfetDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 17:37 | Message # 235
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it's unclear, and unconfirmed. Waiting for the live from ESA at 18:30 UTC




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midtskogenDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 19:04 | Message # 236
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ESA: "Our experts will be busy all night assessing #ExoMars @ESA_EDM status"




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MosfetDate: Wednesday, 19.10.2016, 19:12 | Message # 237
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Let's hope to learn something tomorrow or in next days anyway. There should be a fair amount of orbiters now... it's starting to feel like home wink




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HornblowerDate: Thursday, 20.10.2016, 03:54 | Message # 238
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spacerDate: Thursday, 20.10.2016, 09:00 | Message # 239
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it seems contact lost with Schiaparelli at this moment. what happend is unknown yet it seems.
the communication with it may be Renewed in the coming hours or days, lets hope for the best

EDIT:
its seems schiaparelli is lost acording to ESA right now sad cry
atleast by some articles of u.s news sites.
but i see now that acording to ESA facebook page, its still unknown and experts trying to figure it out.
we can be sure that there was problems, because if there were not problems, we would hear yesterday that the lander is all good





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midtskogenDate: Thursday, 20.10.2016, 17:19 | Message # 240
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Pretty certainly lost. Again.




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