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Now that we've seen "No man's sky"
fergon1Date: Thursday, 18.06.2015, 22:13 | Message # 1
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Hi everyone.
I suppose that many of you have been following E3 and seen the recently shown gameplay of No mans sky. As a procedurally generated universe, in terms of realism or scale, is no match with SE. But the detail of that game at planetary biosphere level is really outstanding. And I mean animated creatures, plants and biome diversity and other effects. I just wonder if something "similar" could be implemented in SE despite engine limitations. Of course I understand that SE is focused more in macroscale detail and physics and orbit simulation, which alredy makes it enough complex and resource demanding.

Thanks (btw I'm new in the forum but used SE since years ago)

PS. If somebody didn't see the demo heres a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGy8HIYBwV0


Edited by fergon1 - Thursday, 18.06.2015, 22:25
 
DoctorOfSpaceDate: Thursday, 18.06.2015, 22:31 | Message # 2
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More detail is planned, check the todo list
http://en.spaceengine.org/forum/21-11-1

SpaceEngine is coded by one person, No Man's Sky is coded by many. No Man's Sky is not very realistic, nor does it appear to be unbounded like SE, plus planets in it are a lot smaller than they should be.

I wouldn't compare the two, just like I wouldn't compare Elite Dangerous with SE, these are all very different games with different goals.





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VladVoivodeDate: Friday, 19.06.2015, 01:14 | Message # 3
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As has been mentioned, SE and NMS are really not comparable. SE is superb and IF Hello Games really delivers the goods, then we are the better for it as we have to exemplary universes to play around in. What I find attractive about NMS is the component that is similar to SE, namely, exploration. From everything I've read thus far,there WILL be an option for exploration only. I am excited about this as NMS could very well become what Spore didn't thanks to the greed of EA.
 
n0b0dyDate: Friday, 19.06.2015, 08:36 | Message # 4
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So from what I understand NMS is something like spore, but only bigger in scale but not as big and not with correct scale compared to Space Engine. And it only features one galaxy ..?

So Space Engine is bigger, more realistic and better.
 
InariusDate: Friday, 19.06.2015, 09:21 | Message # 5
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Better in term of some fields.
Anyway, for me, the main difference today is that NMS is a "real" game (even if gameplay is still not very clear for me) and SE is not yet a game, it's more a simulator.
And the second difference is that SE is far from finished, where NMSis more close to its release.
 
fergon1Date: Friday, 19.06.2015, 11:53 | Message # 6
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I alredy stated that SE is much bigger in scale and realism. NMS can't be taken as a realistic simulator. The purpose of my thread is how detailed the planetary surfaces in SE can get. NMS features modeled vegetation, living creatures and other details like rocks. I wonder if modeled little rocks with actual geometry could be in the surfaces to enhance the perspective of scale en SE.

by the way I looked the TODO list... wow it's been long since I don't check it, but looks really promising


Edited by fergon1 - Friday, 19.06.2015, 12:02
 
SalvoDate: Friday, 19.06.2015, 14:15 | Message # 7
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More or less is what i've expected, it's an awesome game but very far from being realistic. That's not a problem for 99% of players, but for some of us it might be tongue (For scales, and for life appearence, it's too much earth-like... but for that, i'm not even, since I've never been on an exoplanet)

I'll probably buy it, just because I love exploration in games happy





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sent808Date: Sunday, 21.06.2015, 10:18 | Message # 8
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Quote Inarius ()
Better in term of some fields.
Anyway, for me, the main difference today is that NMS is a "real" game (even if gameplay is still not very clear for me) and SE is not yet a game, it's more a simulator.
And the second difference is that SE is far from finished, where NMSis more close to its release.


You are kidding right? Close to release? xDDD There is not even a date for the god beta ....

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So from what I understand NMS is something like spore, but only bigger in scale but not as big and not with correct scale compared to Space Engine. And it only features one galaxy ..?

So Space Engine is bigger, more realistic and better.


what is correct scale? SE is big thanks to the procedual objets. Thanks to them is big. Look how many ``real stars´´ we know in lets say Magallanes clouds... xd The closest galaxy and full of procedual stars.

 
rdskns4evaDate: Wednesday, 22.07.2015, 16:34 | Message # 9
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Space Engine is a Science Game
No Man's Sky is a Science fiction game.





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VladVoivodeDate: Monday, 02.05.2016, 23:15 | Message # 10
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No Man's Sky releases on 21 June. I thought it would be useful to comment on that and correct some misinformation.

1. The planets in NMS ARE planet sized.
2. It was stated in an earlier post that NMS is being coded by many. It is actually being coded by eight people out of a staff of twelve. This is not meant in any way to diminish Space Engineers Herculean effort.

BOTH NMS and SE appeal to the explorer in us and I for one am glad to have TWO universes to explore.

See you out there. wink
 
VladVoivodeDate: Tuesday, 03.05.2016, 18:03 | Message # 11
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Quote n0b0dy ()
So from what I understand NMS is something like spore, but only bigger in scale but not as big and not with correct scale compared to Space Engine. And it only features one galaxy ..?


It is only superficially like Spore in that both take place in space. NMS features many galaxies. That said, we don't know what its scale though it does take place in more than one galaxy.

Anyhow as I wrote before, I love SE and I know I'll love NMS; I'll have two universes to romp in.

What is really cool however are the many mentions of Space Engine in NMS videos and articles. So NMS seems to be pretty good advertising for Space Engine. smile
 
HornblowerDate: Tuesday, 03.05.2016, 18:51 | Message # 12
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I pre-ordered NMS on steam, so don't get me wrong; I am very exited for it. However, there's something that bugs me about it. Almost everyone who has heard of the game, and even the creator himself, believes this is the first game to use procedural generation in this sort of scale. Truth be told, Space Engine wasn't the first either. It's like NMS has gotten much more attention that SE, and that we should find away to avert some of that anticipation towards SE and grow the community a bit.
Also, quick question; I've heard that NMS has 18 quintillion planets. How many planets does SE have? I mean-SE isn't infinite either. It has its own limits.


Edited by Hornblower - Tuesday, 03.05.2016, 18:54
 
Bells_TheoremDate: Wednesday, 04.05.2016, 00:50 | Message # 13
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Apples and oranges. I'll be playing the hell out of NMS, ED and exploring the universe in SE.
 
HarbingerDawnDate: Wednesday, 04.05.2016, 01:02 | Message # 14
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Quote Hornblower ()
I've heard that NMS has 18 quintillion planets. How many planets does SE have?

A hell of a lot more than that. The total number of objects in SE is something like 1022 or 1024. Several orders of magnitude more than exist in NMS.





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werdnaforeverDate: Wednesday, 04.05.2016, 02:14 | Message # 15
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Space Engine is a Science Game
No Man's Sky is a Science fiction game.


SE is hard science fiction. NMS is science fantasy.
 
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