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WatsisnameDate: Friday, 01.01.2016, 04:53 | Message # 4636
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I trust that Kip's calculations for the time dilation, tidal force induced rocking, and waves on that planet are correct, but it does all begin with the assumption that a planet would be in orbit there in the first place, and that's not a reasonable assumption at all. biggrin

Pretty crazy sky to be had there, though. cool





 
DoctorOfSpaceDate: Friday, 01.01.2016, 05:49 | Message # 4637
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and that's not a reasonable assumption at all.


And that is the conclusion SpaceEngineer and I came to as well.





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WatsisnameDate: Friday, 01.01.2016, 07:25 | Message # 4638
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JackDoleDate: Friday, 01.01.2016, 09:01 | Message # 4639
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that's not a reasonable assumption at all

For me, it is. I mean, who am I to disagree with Kip Thorne. cool

But I do not know how I can get the rocking back and forth, as far as I understand it, that's not the same as the precession.


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DoctorOfSpaceDate: Friday, 01.01.2016, 09:12 | Message # 4640
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JackDoleDate: Friday, 01.01.2016, 09:47 | Message # 4641
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WatsisnameDate: Friday, 01.01.2016, 10:03 | Message # 4642
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For me, it is. I mean, who am I to disagree with Kip Thorne.


Kip doesn't claim that it is plausible for a planet to be there. He explored what the properties of a planet would be if one was there, because this was critical for the film's story. Nolan wanted a planetary location where the crew would experience extreme time dilation and giant waves. Kip went "okay, it would have to be located this close in, and here's how the waves could work with a roughly 1-hour period."

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But I do not know how I can get the rocking back and forth, as far as I understand it, that's not the same as the precession.


Yeah, basically the planet's longest axis is rocking back and forth like a pendulum, rather than precessing in a circle. I don't think this is possible to show in the current engine.





 
JackDoleDate: Friday, 01.01.2016, 10:53 | Message # 4643
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Kip doesn't claim that it is plausible for a planet to be there.

I know that the relevant sections are marked with 'S' as 'Speculative'. But who asks for plausibility? I only follow the premise, if it is not physically impossible, maybe it can indeed exist somewhere in spite of improbability. The universe is pretty big. cool

It is also highly unlikely that anyone alive today, sometimes looks a distant star at close range, but who knows? I do not give up hope. biggrin





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JackDoleDate: Friday, 01.01.2016, 21:17 | Message # 4645
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Not the Endurance.




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JackDoleDate: Sunday, 03.01.2016, 02:12 | Message # 4646
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DoctorOfSpaceDate: Sunday, 03.01.2016, 05:00 | Message # 4647
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View from inside a warp bubble





Saw this on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r....ck_hole

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and the second system is even deeper inside

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WatsisnameDate: Sunday, 03.01.2016, 10:08 | Message # 4648
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That's actually still outside the event horizon. If you select the black hole, the ratio r/rg indicates your distance in units of Schwarzschild radii (or the horizon radius), so the horizon is at r/rg=1.0. Another useful stat is "z" which is a measure of the redshift, and z+1 is the time dilation factor (e.g. if z=2, then time passes 3 times more slowly there). z approaches infinity as you approach the horizon, and is undefined once inside.

I did see a blue star inside the horizon, but no planets. Also, this is a pretty crazy situation. tongue The black hole is way too big -- about 3/4 of a light year in radius. It should be more like a light day (~200 AU). Which is still pretty dang big! wacko





 
DoctorOfSpaceDate: Sunday, 03.01.2016, 10:20 | Message # 4649
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The black hole is way too big -- about 3/4 of a light year in radius. It should be more like a light day (~200 AU). Which is still pretty dang big! wacko


Some black holes currently are so massive you can see them from outside the galaxy.

The black dot in the center of this galaxy is a visible black hole wacko






Cockpit views traveling at warp.

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WatsisnameDate: Sunday, 03.01.2016, 10:35 | Message # 4650
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Oh wow, I hadn't encountered anything like that yet. surprised

Awesome cockpit views!





 
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