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Challenge: Historical portraits of the Solar System
FastFourierTransformDate: Sunday, 15.06.2014, 12:38 | Message # 1
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This is the challenge;
Maybe a pseudochallenge (because no one wins and there are no turns established)

Make accurate copies of the most beautifull photographs taken by spacecrafts on the Solar System. (All the images have to be taken on SE without further makeup in photoshop or other programs)

I will start with my attempt of recreting a photograph made by Voyager 1 of Europa flying over Jupiter's Giant Red Spot.

The Original picture:


My attempt on SE:


My second attempt, taking out clouds and atmophere:


Does someone wants to try the famous "Family Portrait" view?

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Edited by FastFourierTransform - Sunday, 15.06.2014, 13:06
 
FastFourierTransformDate: Sunday, 22.06.2014, 20:55 | Message # 2
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Well well well. Since no one wants to play with me, I will do it alone smile

I have tried the photo taken by Cassini at 2.2 million km from Saturn in the night side that shows the fine rings and Earth on 15 September, 2006.

The image taken by Cassini is this one



I've taken in the same instant and position the same image but this time with SE



Is very interesting to emulate the panoramas saw by a spacecraft because you can realize how far away from the beautifull reality SE still is.
For exaple the bluish external toroidal ring is not well depicted, and also the reflection of light from the rings on the surface of the night side of Saturn make a huge difference. But at the same time is amazing to see how close to reality is this software!!

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Edited by FastFourierTransform - Sunday, 22.06.2014, 20:58
 
RockoRocksDate: Sunday, 22.06.2014, 21:12 | Message # 3
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Quote FastFourierTransform ()
Is very interesting to emulate the panoramas saw by a spacecraft because you can realize how far away from the beautifull reality SE still is.
For exaple the bluish external toroidal ring is not well depicted, and also the reflection of light from the rings on the surface of the night side of Saturn make a huge difference. But at the same time is amazing to see how close to reality is this software!!

In the future SpaceEngine will probably resemble reality more and more, and a couple of versions ago that photographic reconstruction would not look as realistic as it does in 0.9.7.1.
Not to mention SpaceEngine is currently absolutely the only program who can remake historical space photographs that accurately. There is not a single program which does it better smile

This is a very interesting challenge and I might give it a shot.

By the way, SpaceEngineer has already reconstructed one of the most famous historical space photographs ever for us (and it did quite well reconstructing it): The Blue Marble:

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SolarLinerDate: Monday, 23.06.2014, 14:29 | Message # 4
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Quote RockoRocks ()
By the way, SpaceEngineer has already reconstructed one of the most famous historical space photographs ever for us (and it did quite well reconstructing it)

He did quite well, yes ... but forgot one thing: the photograph was rotated 180° afterwards because "North is Up" makes a lot more sense to us. The photograph was taken like that:

(Fun fact: this image is ... 0.97 Mb large)





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Master_RamboDate: Monday, 23.06.2014, 15:31 | Message # 5
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Moonrise from Apollo:

 
FastFourierTransformDate: Monday, 23.06.2014, 22:44 | Message # 6
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Not to mention SpaceEngine is currently absolutely the only program who can remake historical space photographs that accurately. There is not a single program which does it better


I obviusly agree. Don't missunderstand me. I'm not very good at english. I also think that this software is great. What I mean is that this kind of game can show us the differences beetwen SE and Reality and those differences can teach us about how to improve SE.

For exaple I have made an other famous portrait to compare real life astrometrics, optics ect... and their differences with SE's.

This is a Cassini Image taken on 2006 where we can see Epimetheus, Titan and some rings with a gap:



And this is my attempt on SE, placing the camera in the same exact position and in the same instant with a tiny FOV:


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FastFourierTransformDate: Thursday, 26.06.2014, 17:48 | Message # 7
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Great!!!

I've archived the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Portrait_(Voyager)]Family Portrait[/url] done by the Voyager 1 in 1990 where it's depicted the whole Solar System.



This is my Space Engine version



And this is a picture taken from this point of view with a FOV of 27 arcminutes of the planet Jupiter



And yes, you are all expecting, the magnificent Pale Blue Dot



And the SE version of our planet, "a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam". (The sunbeam is harder on Venus :))


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Destructor1701Date: Saturday, 28.06.2014, 02:26 | Message # 8
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And oldie, and in no way a contender for this challenge, but I like it anyway:

Reality:


SE:


It was really difficult finding the right island. This was before the ISS model was released by our talented and benevolent overlord, so no foreground Soyuz, unfortunately.







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HarbingerDawnDate: Saturday, 28.06.2014, 04:58 | Message # 9
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This was before the ISS model was released by our talented and benevolent overlord, so no foreground Soyuz, unfortunately.

And unfortunately the ISS model lacks a Soyuz also.





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RockoRocksDate: Saturday, 28.06.2014, 10:11 | Message # 10
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I think that picture (with the Space Shuttle) would actually look a lot of more like the real one if SpaceEngine had extremely realistic and detailed clouds almost like in real life. I hope it will actually get that far one day.




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FastFourierTransformDate: Saturday, 28.06.2014, 14:12 | Message # 11
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Quote RockoRocks ()
would actually look a lot of more like the real one if SpaceEngine had extremely realistic and detailed clouds


I agree completly. Your image is great!! hard work
 
Destructor1701Date: Monday, 06.10.2014, 16:39 | Message # 12
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Quote RockoRocks ()
I think that picture (with the Space Shuttle) would actually look a lot of more like the real one if SpaceEngine had extremely realistic and detailed clouds almost like in real life.


So what you're saying is that Space Engine would look more realistic, if it were more realistic? Wise words indeed tongue





 
johnson_linDate: Monday, 06.10.2014, 16:39 | Message # 13
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Hi all, I'm newbie to Space Engine.

Has anyone tried to recreate that famous Saturn photo from Cassini?
Anyway, I tried mine smile



Now we just need the ring's shine on the surface of the planet... smile (I had to bump up the ambient lighting. The rings when seen from behind is already almost identical to the real photo though.)

Also a quick search found out that Earthrise has been attempted, but still I attach my try here:






 
apenpaapDate: Monday, 06.10.2014, 16:39 | Message # 14
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Great shots, the Saturn pic especially. I thought it was the real thing until I read your post.




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DIS7RICTDate: Monday, 06.10.2014, 16:39 | Message # 15
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Wow! Just like apenpaap above, I thought it was the real thing, I was getting ready to scroll down and see your version but that was your version. Nice!




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