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The Cosmic Ocean (Ep2 is out)
TalismanDate: Wednesday, 26.10.2011, 18:44 | Message # 31
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Do you want to do "real" systems more then generated ones?




 
HardtsDate: Wednesday, 26.10.2011, 18:59 | Message # 32
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Do you want to do "real" systems more then generated ones?

I would prefer real systems. Then I can use wikipedia etc. for more detailed information. After all, I'm not an astronomer dry
Not ruling out procedural systems completely - just for now.





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TalismanDate: Wednesday, 26.10.2011, 19:20 | Message # 33
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I would prefer real systems. Then I can use wikipedia etc. for more detailed information. After all, I'm not an astronomer
Not ruling out procedural systems completely - just for now.


Agreed, that seems reasonable. Although we don't know that much more about "real" extra-solar systems then generated ones, I see why you want to keep it real for now though, it would seem kind of weird to go: "This star might not exist! It's just hypothetical"

For real systems, a good one that we have a lot of info on would be Gliese 581, although it's not too interesting and none of the planets there have moons (in spaceengine).

I'll try to look for a cool "real" system though. All my saved ones are generated ones haha.





 
HardtsDate: Wednesday, 26.10.2011, 19:53 | Message # 34
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Agreed, that seems reasonable. Although we don't know that much more about "real" extra-solar systems then generated ones, I see why you want to keep it real for now though, it would seem kind of weird to go: "This star might not exist! It's just hypothetical"


- Exactly, that line might not go down so well smile

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For real systems, a good one that we have a lot of info on would be Gliese 581, although it's not too interesting and none of the planets there have moons (in spaceengine).

I'll try to look for a cool "real" system though. All my saved ones are generated ones haha.


Heheh. ok, good idea.

- And yes as Fiahstorm suggested Gliese 581 is a very good suggestion, thanks to you both.

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Gliese 581
Gliese 370/HD 85512
Rigel Kentaurus ABC
Kepler 11

Some of my ideas.


Thank you for the ideas. I will check them all out soon, right now I'm almost falling off my chair from lack of sleep wacko





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TalismanDate: Wednesday, 26.10.2011, 20:18 | Message # 35
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Here's a good one.

72 Leo (in the Leo constellation)
Use object finder to find it.

It's my personally found largest star in the Milky way so far. at 12.619 AU Diameter.

If it was where our sun is its surface would extend a bit out past Saturn. It's so large that thermodynamics can't work properly resulting in a strange bulging appearance.

Has some interesting desert planets and moons, two large and different gas giants and on the farthest planet it has a lone Terra moon right on the edge where water can exist.







Edited by Talisman - Wednesday, 26.10.2011, 20:28
 
SpaceEngineerDate: Wednesday, 26.10.2011, 20:51 | Message # 36
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Kepler-11 is an interesting compact system.
Gliese-581 has a planet in the goldilocks zone.

I plan to release a new version this week. It will have detailed terrain that will be able to load LOD 0 on 1 Gb video cards. It will have an updated exoplanet catalog (real systems), tidal-locked and ocean planets, dynamic lens flares and even more stuff. So, if you wait some days.....

BTW, in the new version the old places you found will be destroyed, except for real systems.

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HardtsDate: Wednesday, 26.10.2011, 21:13 | Message # 37
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Kepler-11 is an interesting compact system.
Gliese-581 has a planet in the goldilocks zone.

I plan to release a new version this week. It will have detailed terrain that will be able to load LOD 0 on 1 Gb video cards. It will have an updated exoplanet catalog (real systems), tidal-locked and ocean planets, dynamic lens flares and even more stuff. So, if you wait some days.....

BTW, in the new version the old places you found will be destroyed, except for real systems.


That's just incredibly cool man.
I'll wait a few days smile

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SpaceEngineerDate: Wednesday, 26.10.2011, 21:19 | Message # 38
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More info here: http://en.spaceengine.org/forum/20-105-1 (look at updated first post).

Also, I will prepare a "video recording tips" post, it will be published when a new version comes out.

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HardtsDate: Saturday, 29.10.2011, 18:52 | Message # 39
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Gliese-581 has a planet in the goldilocks zone.


I have been checking the system out, and I have run into some issues in regards to life support.
Gliese 581 d is the only terra planet in the system, but it is orbiting in the outer regions of the habitable zone.
It does have liquid water, although this must be a substance of different composition than H2O.
Correct me if I'm wrong but at a temp of about -98C, and an atmospheric pressure of about 0.25 Atm, would water not freeze?
I couldn't find an easy way to determine the freezing point of H2O at varying pressure.
I don't suppose gravity has a say in this aswell - I would think not tongue ?

Then there's Gliese 581 - a very warm desert. There are some uncertainties to it's temperature, but with it's strong greenhouse effect there's a good chance temperatures are as high as 500C (according to WikiPedia) - in SpaceEngine it's just over 190C.

In my eyes, none of these planets are very welcoming biggrin

- Just one more question - I am checking out Gliese 370/HD 85512 as suggested, but I'm not sure I've found it;
"Gliese 370" isn't recognized. HD 85512 I can find, but it doesn't seem to be the same HD 85512 mentioned here: Gliese 370

Or here: HD 85512b- where HD 85512b i described as a 'super-earth' with a mass og approx 3,6 times earth's. In the HD 85512 I can find in Space Engine there is one terra planet which is a small moon orbiting a cool desert (HD 85512 5).

Sorry for all the questions, I just want to know if what I'm looking at is fictitious





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Edited by Hardts - Saturday, 29.10.2011, 20:33
 
SpaceEngineerDate: Saturday, 29.10.2011, 22:49 | Message # 40
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Wait for new version, it has updated catalog of discovered planets, and updated planetary system generation algorithm, that should eliminate the issues with temperature.

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GameOverDate: Monday, 07.11.2011, 01:58 | Message # 41
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Hello... Well, I've watched the video and it's awesome!

I've downloaded and converted the video for people who just like me, own a Playstation Portable and like to watch documentaries and movies in it. So, here's the download link:

DOWNLOAD
File type: MP4 AVC
Resolution: 480x272

Already tested on my PSP, looks great.

Can't wait for the next version of SE, and also the next episode of The Cosmic Ocean biggrin





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HardtsDate: Thursday, 17.11.2011, 21:32 | Message # 42
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Hello... Well, I've watched the video and it's awesome!

I've downloaded and converted the video for people who just like me, own a Playstation Portable and like to watch documentaries and movies in it. So, here's the download link:

DOWNLOAD
File type: MP4 AVC
Resolution: 480x272

Already tested on my PSP, looks great.

Can't wait for the next version of SE, and also the next episode of The Cosmic Ocean


I'm very glad you liked it that much, and excellent initiative smile - didn't see your post before now.
I've just visited Altair in the new version 0.95 of SE, and to my dissapointment Altair 8 is inhospitable now :(..
I guess perhaps SpaceEngineer didn't have the heart to tell me that my beloved planet was fiction biggrin

Next week I'm going to start working on the next episode.





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SpaceEngineerDate: Thursday, 17.11.2011, 22:48 | Message # 43
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You can record a new episode about some real planet - UPS Andromedae d. It is a gas giant within a goldilocks zone - it may have an Earth-like moon. Good place for real Pandora smile I can make a script that can add some moons to it - and include it in every new release. So your film will stay relevant till astronomers discover real moons for this planet.

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TalismanDate: Friday, 18.11.2011, 06:56 | Message # 44
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Hardts, let me know what system/planet you want to use for your next episode, I can give some unique facts about it that should be interesting for the viewers.

Also, I was thinking about making my own show perhaps, where I do a mock probe flight to a random star/planet and survey they system and make it realistic. For example Day 2: In space initiating boost towards the target, Day 6492: First telescopic images are taken from system, noticed that system has 3 gas giants, and one terrestrial with liquid water. Day 6550, deciding possible landing mission on terrestrial planet, gas giants also have 2 moons with water. etc.

I think I could make it interesting but I don't know.





 
GameOverDate: Saturday, 19.11.2011, 11:51 | Message # 45
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I'm very glad you liked it that much, and excellent initiative - didn't see your post before now.
I've just visited Altair in the new version 0.95 of SE, and to my dissapointment Altair 8 is inhospitable now :(..
I guess perhaps SpaceEngineer didn't have the heart to tell me that my beloved planet was fiction

Next week I'm going to start working on the next episode.


Thanks, and sorry about Altair 8, may it rip... Good work in the next episode. biggrin

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Also, I was thinking about making my own show perhaps, where I do a mock probe flight to a random star/planet and survey they system and make it realistic. For example Day 2: In space initiating boost towards the target, Day 6492: First telescopic images are taken from system, noticed that system has 3 gas giants, and one terrestrial with liquid water. Day 6550, deciding possible landing mission on terrestrial planet, gas giants also have 2 moons with water. etc.

I think I could make it interesting but I don't know.


Talisman, I think the same... It could be in video, or even a written "board diary" with pictures (don't know if board diary is the right expression, I'm not a native english speaker). I imagined myself (for first-person narrative purposes) leaving Earth in a Spaceship like the one used by Carl Sagan in the Cosmos series, travelling to the nearest stars, and getting farther and farther... It's very expensive, I guess.





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